Curse

Toxage · Apr 15, 2008, 01:51 AM // 01:51

Arena Net has had the last straw with me with their currents focus on Guild Wars 2. I love Guild Wars; I have played over 2,000 hours.

But, Arena Net is starting to make me worried. I understand you want to make Guild Wars 2 amazing. I understand that video games take large amounts of work, money, and time.

But please don't abandon your community. It makes no sense. You need to still maintain your current franchise. I know you are trying, but you need to try a little more

Could you imagine if this were to happen in other businesses?

Imagine if this were to happen in a restaurant.

Customer: Hi, I would like some Dr. Pepper with a Cheeseburger done medium well.

Waiter: All right, should be about 10 minutes.

Customer: Uhhh... It has been an hour... where is my food?

Waiter: Oh here it is! Here is your water and lettuce!

Customer: I ordered Dr. Pepper and a Cheeseburger

Waiter: We apologize that you didn't get what you wanted, but in a couple years from now we will one amazing restaurant, so come back then and it will be better.

I feel like this is happening in Guild Wars.

The community has longed for:

-More character customization (Nothing)

-More PvP Maps (HA has had the same maps for how long?)

-More PvP Styles (Hero Battles Doesn’t Cut It)

-A Better Trading System; Spamming for HOURS to sell something is horrible. Your band-aid attempt to fix this was pathetic. (Make an auction house. Or design another system. How about a system that would allow me to make a little stand and go afk, and people could purchase my goods for the set price if they wanted)

-More Interesting Boss fights; Boss fights in their current form are pathetic. They are just regular monsters buffed up a few levels with a glow around them. Boss fights need to feel heroic and epic. Bosses should be more unique. Bosses need unique skills (Take a current skill and tweak it) audio effects, unique skins (If your going to reuse skins at least SLIGHTLY alter them to make it look like you care a microscopic amount add some fiery or frost effects or some wings, fangs, arms, legs, heads, etc… )

You don’t even need to think of ideas. Just go to the suggestion forum here and use those ideas! How easy is that? You don’t even need to think anymore!

Winterclaw · Apr 15, 2008, 01:54 AM // 01:54

I hope you feel better after this rant/QQ.

My hope for GW1 is some other company eventually is contracted to keep working on it. TBH I'd feel better if things were wrapped up and GW2 took place on a completely different world. IE have 3 more expansions... one for factions, one for NF, and a final one that wraps up the dragons and whatnot.

fenix · Apr 15, 2008, 01:54 AM // 01:54

wat?

Yeah, we get it, Anet failed at making GW fun after 2 years. That's because they're 'working on GW2'. If it fails, then you know Anet are just a bad company. Wait till GW2, then post up wall o' text threads that don't actually have a point other than to complain about the same things everyone has complained about for years.

TheSackMaster · Apr 15, 2008, 01:54 AM // 01:54

Signed, Guild Wars should integrate many of those things, but probably wont.

Lawrence Chang · Apr 15, 2008, 02:00 AM // 02:00

I agree that they givin up on GW1. Sure they are working on GW2, but thats not an excuse. The complaints that you mentioned have been mentioned early on before GW2 was announced. How hard is it to implement these changes? Their initial targeted audience was for a competitive PvP RPG. Well, that quickly changed when they introduced NF and GWEN. They began to appeal to more PvE, but instead of adding on what you mentioned (better character customization, more unique bosses, an Auction House, and let me add, more weapon customization), they simply reskin everything and wrap it in a new box.

Winterclaw · Apr 15, 2008, 02:07 AM // 02:07

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Sure they are working on GW2, but thats not an excuse.

They stopped focusing on GW1 specifically because they want the sequal to be a success.

Lord Darksoul · Apr 15, 2008, 02:08 AM // 02:08

The problem is is that we have no monthly fees, which means once we buy the game, who in ANet actually gives a damn afterwards? They made their money, that's it.

Monthly payments make it so the devs are always working to keep their cash flow per month. ANet, not only not having to do that, doesn't give a damn period about Guild Wars, even before GW2 was announced.

IMO, ANet is a bad company, there have been things asked since the beginning of GW, and they still haven't fixed it.

They better get their game up, or else GW2 will be their last game. They already have a bad rep of short-term fixures w/o actually solving it for good.

Look how long the report feature took, or the leavers in RA, or the spamming of trades.

Toxage · Apr 15, 2008, 02:13 AM // 02:13

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Originally Posted by Lord Darksoul

The problem is is that we have no monthly fees, which means once we buy the game, who in ANet actually gives a damn afterwards? They made their money, that's it.

Monthly payments make it so the devs are always working to keep their cash flow per month. ANet, not only not having to do that, doesn't give a damn period about Guild Wars, even before GW2 was announced.

IMO, ANet is a bad company, there have been things asked since the beginning of GW, and they still haven't fixed it.

They better get their game up, or else GW2 will be their last game. They already have a bad rep of short-term fixures w/o actually solving it for good.

Look how long the report feature took, or the leavers in RA, or the spamming of trades.

Preach It Brother!

I feel that these things will come around to bite Arena Net in the butt when Guild Wars 2 comes out.

Players will remember how they were treated.

Zahr Dalsk · Apr 15, 2008, 02:16 AM // 02:16

ArenaNet has no obligation to actually do what we want, so yeah... not much point complaining; better to try to suggest the stuff for Gw2.

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Originally Posted by Toxage

Customer: Hi, I would like some Dr. Pepper with a Cheeseburger done medium well.
Waiter: All right, should be about 10 minutes.
Customer: Uhhh... It has been an hour... where is my food?
Waiter: Oh here it is! Here is your water and lettuce!
Customer: I ordered Dr. Pepper and a Cheeseburger
Waiter: We apologize that you didn't get what you wanted, but in a couple years from now we will one amazing restaurant, so come back then and it will be better.

Dr. Pepper is disgusting swill, and you deserve that if you actually drink the stuff.

Savio · Apr 15, 2008, 02:20 AM // 02:20

You don't order games, you buy them as is. Not that Guild Wars hasn't always needed improvement, but it's presumptuous to think Arenanet must do things for you.

Also, they aren't lacking ideas, they lack effective solutions. Saying "we want an auction house" a thousand times over doesn't magically create a working auction house system.

slowerpoke · Apr 15, 2008, 02:21 AM // 02:21

the rats are fleeing the sinking ship, halp

Kakumei · Apr 15, 2008, 02:21 AM // 02:21

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Originally Posted by Lawrence Chang

Sure they are working on GW2, but thats not an excuse.

Yes, it is. Why should they spend vast amounts of time and effort on something that's not going to net them any extra revenue?

Inde · Apr 15, 2008, 02:24 AM // 02:24

I think Savio has said it best.

I'm going to go wayyyyyy out of my comfort zone and let this stay open for a bit... but I'm pretty sure it's going to get pummeled to the ground.

Just a warning really.

fenix · Apr 15, 2008, 02:27 AM // 02:27

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Originally Posted by Inde

I think Savio has said it best.

I'm going to go wayyyyyy out of my comfort zone and let this stay open for a bit... but I'm pretty sure it's going to get pummeled to the ground.

Just a warning really.

Bad idea Inde

This'll be closed in less than 10 minutes, I can see it happening.

Really, that has been discussed to death. If you're really cynical, Anet aren't doing anything because they already have your cash, so don't need to make the game better to keep you paying. On the other hand, they say they're working on GW2. Either way, GW has been left alone in a corner, so just wait till GW2 comes out, and ANet might care again.

HawkofStorms · Apr 15, 2008, 02:30 AM // 02:30

Along with your Sardelaic post which is basically the same thing...
What in the world is your deal? You have a vast feeling of entitlement and inflated self-worth.

A.net works their butts off to create a game, and you are just whinning that its not EXACTLY like you want it to be. Game coding is not that easy and requires a very high understanding of math and engineering. When they say "they are working on it" they legitamately are. It's not like there is just a button they can push though to change the server's code instantly and do it bug free.

Clarissa F · Apr 15, 2008, 02:34 AM // 02:34

^^I give it a day.

OP: I'd rather they maintain GW, or contract it out, and concentrate on the new game being a great game, than keep having to put out delay after delay before releasing some swill, just because they diverted manpower to auction houses, expansions, etc. At least they are still maintaining the game.

Lawrence Chang · Apr 15, 2008, 02:39 AM // 02:39

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Originally Posted by Winterclaw

They stopped focusing on GW1 specifically because they want the sequal to be a success.

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Originally Posted by Kakumei

Yes, it is. Why should they spend vast amounts of time and effort on something that's not going to net them any extra revenue?

Thats not the point. I said GW2 shouldn't be an excuse because these problems were addressed far before GW2 was ever announced. If we got together at this very moment to be the first to address this issue, then GW2 would be an excuse.

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Along with your Sardelaic post which is basically the same thing...
What in the world is your deal? You have a vast feeling of entitlement and inflated self-worth.

A.net works their butts off to create a game, and you are just whinning that its not EXACTLY like you want it to be. Game coding is not that easy and requires a very high understanding of math and engineering. When they say "they are working on it" they legitamately are. It's not like there is just a button they can push though to change the server's code instantly and do it bug free.

Uhm. They took some old codes, slapped on a new skin and called it Eye of the North. BMP is basically a reskin of any item that you can get from weapon crafters. What work did that take? HoM should have been a free of charge core/universal thing. They are basically forcing you to pay $$ to transfer some items/achievements onto GW2.

Toxage · Apr 15, 2008, 02:41 AM // 02:41

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

What in the world is your deal? You have a vast feeling of entitlement

My bad, I want to play a good games.

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

A.net works their butts off

Where is the content then? Oh ya, that's right there is none. Sure looks like hard work to me.

RedStar · Apr 15, 2008, 02:42 AM // 02:42

Sorry but you don't tell them how you want them to make their game. If the game doesn't have what you want then don't buy it in hope that it will have it one day (and if you want to be sure at what a game has to offer, do some research before buying it

).

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better character customization

Don't you mean being allowed to change your face/haircut once your char has been created ? If you don't then I don't see what more customization you need (and don't tell me more armors wow style

, or being able to be fat ).

Btw : Fenix you were wrong.... it's been more than 10 minutes xD.

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explodemyheart · Apr 15, 2008, 02:42 AM // 02:42

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Originally Posted by Toxage

Where is the content then? Oh ya, that's right there is none. Sure looks like hard work to me.

Show me the game that you made.